Legislature(2021 - 2022)BARNES 124

01/25/2022 01:00 PM House TRANSPORTATION

Note: the audio and video recordings are distinct records and are obtained from different sources. As such there may be key differences between the two. The audio recordings are captured by our records offices as the official record of the meeting and will have more accurate timestamps. Use the icons to switch between them.

Download Mp3. <- Right click and save file as

Audio Topic
01:01:00 PM Start
01:01:31 PM Overview: Statewide Transportation Improvement Program (stip) and Infrastructure Investment & Jobs Act (iija) Formula
02:48:32 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Teleconference <Listen Only> --
+ Statewide Transportation Improvement Program TELECONFERENCED
(STIP) and IIJA Formula Overview by
Commissioner Ryan Anderson; Deputy Commissioner
Rob Carpenter; James Marks, Director of Program
Development, Alaska Department of Transportation
and Public Facilities
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        January 25, 2022                                                                                        
                           1:01 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Grier Hopkins, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Sara Hannan, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative George Rauscher                                                                                                  
Representative Mel Gillis                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: STATEWIDE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (STIP)                                                                   
AND INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT & JOBS ACT (IIJA) FORMULA                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RYAN ANDERSON, Commissioner Designee                                                                                            
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Introduced the Statewide Transportation                                                                  
Improvement Program.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JAMES MARKS, Director                                                                                                           
Division of Program Development and Statewide Planning                                                                          
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented  a PowerPoint,  titled "Statewide                                                             
Transportation Improvement Program and IIJA Overview."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ROB CARPENTER, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions  during the  overview of                                                             
the Statewide Transportation Improvement Program.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:01:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRIER HOPKINS  called  the  House Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   1:01  p.m.    Representatives                                                               
Drummond, McKay, McCabe, Cronk,  Stutes, and Hopkins were present                                                               
at  the call  to order.    Representative Hannan  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW:  Statewide Transportation  Improvement Program  (STIP)                                                               
and Infrastructure Investment & Jobs Act (IIJA) Formula                                                                         
 OVERVIEW: Statewide Transportation Improvement Program (STIP)                                                              
    and Infrastructure Investment & Jobs Act (IIJA) Formula                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:01:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS announced that the  only order of business would be                                                               
an overview  of the Statewide Transportation  Improvement Program                                                               
and Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act formula.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:02:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN    ANDERSON,    Commissioner   Designee,    Department    of                                                               
Transportation   and   Public    Facilities   (DOT&PF)   provided                                                               
introductory remarks on  the Statewide Transportation Improvement                                                               
Program (STIP).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:04:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  MARKS,  Director,  Division  of  Program  Development  and                                                               
Statewide  Planning,  Department  of  Transportation  and  Public                                                               
Facilities,   presented    a   PowerPoint,    titled   "Statewide                                                               
Transportation Improvement Program and  IIJA Overview" [hard copy                                                               
included  in   the  committee   packet].     He  said   that  the                                                               
presentation covers  the state and federal  regulations governing                                                               
STIP and  the project-development  process.   He stated  he would                                                               
also  give  an  overview  of the  Federal  Aid  Highways  Program                                                               
(FAHP).   He began by explaining  that in order for  the state to                                                               
receive federal  funds for surface transportation  projects under                                                               
STIP,  these  projects  must  be  fiscally  constrained,  solicit                                                               
public   input,  and   be  approved   by   the  Federal   Highway                                                               
Administration  (FHWA)  and  the Federal  Transit  Administration                                                               
(FTA).  He  pointed out that state projects are  broken down into                                                               
the National  Highway System (NHS), Alaska  Highway System (AHS),                                                               
Community  Transportation Program,  and  Trails and  Recreational                                                               
Access for Alaskans.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:08:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARKS   stated  that,  except  for   preservation  or  minor                                                               
rehabilitation projects,  STIP project delivery time  runs around                                                               
4 to  8 years.   He  explained that a  [10-plus] year  program of                                                               
projects  is  maintained in  order  to  understand total  project                                                               
costs.   Explaining STIP composition,  he said it is  broken down                                                               
into  state programs  and capital  improvement  programs.   State                                                               
programs comprise 25 percent of  STIP, and these include programs                                                               
for  preservation, maintenance,  safety,  bridges, culverts,  and                                                               
rail and  freight transit.  The  remaining 75 percent of  STIP is                                                               
in  regulation for  capital-improvement  programs, which  include                                                               
NHS, AHS, and the Alaska Marine Highway System (AMHS).                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:10:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARKS pointed  out that  slide 4  shows the  simplified STIP                                                               
process for developing projects and  soliciting public input.  He                                                               
stated  that  the  department keeps  a  maintenance  schedule  by                                                               
evaluating   the   following  factors:   socioeconomic,   safety,                                                               
corridor, military,  and local.   Once the needs  are determined,                                                               
input will  be solicited and  collected for evaluation.   He said                                                               
that the  next step is the  call for projects, which  begins with                                                               
the listing of  criteria on the department's  website, along with                                                               
online public  notices.  This  involves input  from stakeholders,                                                               
local  sponsors, and  regions within  DOT&PF.   He described  the                                                               
exchange  between the  STIP  team and  stakeholders  as taking  a                                                               
significant amount  of time.   He stated that the  input received                                                               
could include  projects from previous years,  preservation needs,                                                               
or  new programs.    He  stated that  the  projects  will be  put                                                               
together into nomination packages.   After the Project Evaluation                                                               
Board  reviews the  packages, notices  for public  input will  be                                                               
sent  out,  and a  prioritized  list  will  be created.    Fiscal                                                               
constraint and delivery timelines  will be evaluated, and project                                                               
selection will  occur.  He stated  that by regulation a  new STIP                                                               
requires significant public involvement.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:16:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARKS,  in response  to  a  series of  committee  questions,                                                               
stated that projects  are created once they  have been evaluated,                                                               
as seen  in the  last cycle  depicted on slide  4.   He responded                                                               
that once everything  is funded each year, the  total STIP amount                                                               
would be between $1 billion and  $1.2 billion per year.  He added                                                               
that this  is not just  for surface transportation projects.   He                                                               
referenced  a larger  list of  projects  which does  not have  an                                                               
accurate price  tag because the  estimations have not  been made.                                                               
He  explained   that,  because  of  project   delivery  and  cost                                                               
estimation, this is  a 10-year program; however, STIP  is a four-                                                               
year program updated  every two to three years.   He said STIP is                                                               
a four-year program, so the funding would be around $4 billion.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:20:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS,  responding to committee  questions, stated  that STIP                                                               
funding for  projects can be updated  at the end of  the process;                                                               
however,  funding   changes  can   happen  at   different  times.                                                               
Depending on  the size, he  said, the  change can be  made within                                                               
DOT&PF in  a quick process.   If the  change is big,  the process                                                               
would  involve a  STIP amendment.    He stated  that this  occurs                                                               
whenever a project  is added or deleted from  the four-year plan,                                                               
a change  to the scope  is made, or  there has been  a remarkable                                                               
cost increase.   He added  that this  type of change  would start                                                               
the  public  notice cycle  again.    Concerning transparency,  he                                                               
responded that  STIP is  a published  document, with  all active,                                                               
current, and  historical projects published  on the website.   In                                                               
response  to further  questioning, he  stated the  STIP has  been                                                               
around   for  decades,   with  the   biggest  changes   involving                                                               
transparency and public involvement.   He stated that the biggest                                                               
STIP  had been  the Cooper  Landing bypass,  which was  over $500                                                               
million.     Concerning   the  committee's   discussion  on   the                                                               
Richardson Highway's  funding for overpasses, he  responded that,                                                               
with  the potential  influx of  funds and  the various  scenarios                                                               
available to  the state, the  flexibility of STIP funds  is being                                                               
considered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:28:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARKS directed  attention to  funding through  FAHP and  how                                                               
this interacts with  IIJA.  He stated that this  is important for                                                               
understanding the constraints  and the requirements of  STIP.  He                                                               
said  FAHP  is  a  federally   assisted  and  state  administered                                                               
program, and  it is tied  to specific systems and  programs where                                                               
states  or  local agencies  pay  for  maintenance and  the  match                                                               
requirements.   He stated that FHWA  establishes national highway                                                               
policy,  regulations,  and  guidance.   It  also  approves  state                                                               
proposals and distributes  funds, as STIP is an  example of this.                                                               
He added  that state  and local  governments are  responsible for                                                               
project   conception,   planning,   design,   construction,   and                                                               
maintenance and operation of highways.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARKS  stated   that  the  six  major  steps   in  FAHP  are                                                               
authorization,    appropriation,    apportionment,    allocation,                                                               
obligation,  and   outlay.    He   said  confusion   arises  when                                                               
associating these  terms to the  funding amount available  to the                                                               
state.   He  remarked that  the U.S.  Congress's two  actions are                                                               
authorizing  transportation  programs  and  appropriating  funds.                                                               
The authorization  of these programs  is through IIJA  every five                                                               
years,  while the  appropriations  are  passed yearly,  assigning                                                               
money to  each program.  From  here the apportionment is  done by                                                               
the U.S. Department of Transportation  (DoT).  He stated that six                                                               
main  apportionment  programs  are  statutory  in  nature,  while                                                               
allocations are  the other funding  programs not in statute.   He                                                               
described the obligation step as  "nebulous" and said it would be                                                               
discussed   at  a   later  time.     He   described  outlays   as                                                               
reimbursements to the states.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:33:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARKS,  in response  to  a  series of  committee  questions,                                                               
stated  there   is  already  a  statute   for  authorization  and                                                               
apportionment  by  the  U.S.  Congress, and  DoT  would  put  the                                                               
apportionment   through   a    prescribed   formula   for   money                                                               
distribution  to the  states.   He  responded that  apportionment                                                               
formulas usually do not change;  however, there have been changes                                                               
in IIJA  which will be  reviewed later  in the presentation.   He                                                               
continued  that STIP  is built  to follow  the formulas,  and the                                                               
total dollars  are balanced to  each program, but funding  can be                                                               
moved around.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:35:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARKS  explained that  IIJA  is  a five-year  transportation                                                               
authorization,  providing  around  $550 billion  in  new  federal                                                               
infrastructure   funding,   with   around   one-half   going   to                                                               
transportation.  He  stated that this is an  investment in public                                                               
transit,  bridges,  clean  water,   clean  energy,  and  electric                                                               
vehicle infrastructure.   He  stated that  Alaska's apportionment                                                               
is around  $646 million each year.   He said the  major change in                                                               
IIJA is  the amount of  discretionary grants available,  of which                                                               
Alaska stands to benefit.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:36:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS, in response to a  series of committee questions on the                                                               
discretionary  grant  program,  gave  examples  of  discretionary                                                               
grants  in IIJA,  which are  the  two ferry  grant programs  that                                                               
address electrification  and rural  ferries.  He  responded that,                                                               
if a  specific appropriation  is already in  STIP for  a project,                                                               
discretionary grant projects can be  added to this.  He responded                                                               
that the discretion would be up to the DoT agency.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS,  turning focus to  the federal  appropriations, stated                                                               
that  this  is   the  budget  that  gets  passed   once  a  year.                                                               
Discussing  the current  year's process  in detail,  he said  the                                                               
rulemaking   for  the   current  year   is  still   underway,  as                                                               
eligibility has  been expanded for  certain programs.   He stated                                                               
that  these  programs  include electric  vehicle  infrastructure,                                                               
carbon  reduction, ferry  capital and  operating grants,  and the                                                               
Promoting Resilient Operations  for Transformative, Efficient and                                                               
Cost-Saving  Transportation  (PROTECT) formula,  which  addresses                                                               
resiliency in terms of weather events.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:41:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS,  in response  to committee  questions, stated  that if                                                               
the rulemaking  process is  not complete  by August,  and funding                                                               
does  not  come through,  executing  the  STIP program  would  be                                                               
difficult, as  it operates  on the federal  fiscal year,  and all                                                               
funding  must  be  spent  by  the end  of  September.    He  said                                                               
typically  these  budgets are  passed  by  the end  of  February.                                                               
Concerning lead-up  work to receiving  the funding,  he responded                                                               
that  DOT&PF has  ongoing  discussions  concerning scenarios  and                                                               
different  tools   that  can  be   used  for   different  funding                                                               
timelines.   He  said  one  tool is  a  concept called  "advanced                                                               
construction."    With  this  a project  can  begin,  subject  to                                                               
reimbursement.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS, in response to a  line of questioning on ferry capital                                                               
funding,  stated  that  the rulemaking  process  is  still  being                                                               
conducted, but  the department is  "hopeful" the funding  for the                                                               
new  Tustumena is  in STIP.    He pointed  out the  discretionary                                                               
grant money for rural ferries  could be used; however, this would                                                               
be  for  operating costs,  not  capital  costs.   He  stated  the                                                               
capital costs for  the Tustumena replacement fund are  in the 10-                                                               
year plan,  and the  state appropriations  still exist  for this.                                                               
He responded that there are  federal funds programmed for the new                                                               
ferry, but it has not gone to construction yet.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:45:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROB CARPENTER, Deputy  Commissioner, Department of Transportation                                                               
and  Public   Facilities,  joined  the  discussion   on  the  new                                                               
Tustumena.    He   stated  that  the  new   vessel's  funding  is                                                               
technically outside of  STIP, but it is in the  10-year plan.  He                                                               
advised that  STIP is a  planning document, and when  the federal                                                               
government  gives approval,  the money  can  be spent.   At  this                                                               
point,  the plan  for construction  is ongoing,  but there  is no                                                               
revenue behind it.  The  department is speaking with a contractor                                                               
about  the  final  design  looking at  the  options  for  funding                                                               
sources.   He reiterated that  there is  a plan for  the funding,                                                               
but there  has not been  a point in  time when funds  were needed                                                               
because of construction delays.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS  explained that the  ferry project  is one year  out of                                                               
STIP,  but once  at the  construction stage  the project  will be                                                               
moved directly  into STIP.  He  stated that the new  Tustumena is                                                               
currently in  the four-year STIP  plan, but the  new construction                                                               
phase is  outside of this  timeframe because it was  unclear when                                                               
development of the project would be ready.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER responded  that the answer to  the funding question                                                               
is not  an easy one,  as the planned  revenue for the  vessel had                                                               
been  reprogrammed at  some point.   He  responded that  there is                                                               
already money appropriated for the replacement ferry in state-                                                                  
matched  funds, but  the federal  expenditure  authority is  real                                                               
money  only  once construction  begins.    In reference  to  last                                                               
year's funding,  he stated that it  had been "in the  sweep."  He                                                               
stated that it went into the AMHS fund, not the general fund.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:54:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARKS, moving  the discussion  to FAHP  apportionments, said                                                               
formulas are used to determine  the percentage of funding for the                                                               
following  programs:     National  Highways  Performance  Program                                                               
(NHPP),  Surface  Transportation  Block  Grants  (STBG),  Highway                                                               
Safety Improvement Program (HSIP),  Congestion Mitigation and Air                                                               
Quality  (CMAQ), National  Highways Freight  Program (NHFP),  and                                                               
Metropolitan Planning Organization Planning (MPO PL).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:55:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS,  responding to a  series of questions on  MPOs, stated                                                               
he would  follow up  after the  meeting concerning  the Municipal                                                               
Separate  Storm  Sewer  System issues  in  the  Matanuska-Susitna                                                               
Valley.  Concerning  whether DOT&PF has been  working on regional                                                               
planning entities  for rural  and unorganized  municipalities, he                                                               
responded  that  there  have been  discussions  with  the  Alaska                                                               
Municipal League, the commissioner,  and some of the communities.                                                               
Some challenges  have been addressed,  with some  steps developed                                                               
concerning the design of  a regional transportation organization.                                                               
He  stated that  the commissioner  intends to  proceed with  this                                                               
discussion.    He  responded  that   the  federal  definition  of                                                               
"metropolitan" in MPO  is based on population and  density.  This                                                               
had been one of the  issues with the Matanuska-Susitna Valley, as                                                               
it reached  population thresholds but  not density.   In response                                                               
to an  additional question regarding  threshold amounts,  he said                                                               
because  they vary,  he  would  follow up  with  an  answer.   He                                                               
affirmed  that the  only  areas  that qualify  as  MPOs would  be                                                               
Anchorage,  Fairbanks,  and  the Matanuska-Susitna  Valley.    In                                                               
response to a committee question  concerning the listed entities'                                                               
involvement, he  described the following  examples:  NHPP  has to                                                               
be used  on a  designated NHS project;  STBGs are  flexible funds                                                               
which can  be used on  the state's  projects, as opposed  to only                                                               
federal projects;  HSIP collects  data on highway  fatalities and                                                               
injuries; CMAQ  is an  air quality funding  source used  only for                                                               
maintenance; NHFP  is connected with specific  corridor projects;                                                               
and  MPO funds  come  from other  sub-allocated funding  sources,                                                               
such as STGB.  Concerning the  money Alaska gets for the NHFP, he                                                               
responded that this would be addressed on the next slide.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:06:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS  listed the  steps in the  apportionment formula.   The                                                               
first  step  is  that  the  funding  for  the  entire  nation  is                                                               
determined by  an appropriations Act,  or IIJA.   In step  2, the                                                               
funding  is  put through  the  formulas  and distributed  to  the                                                               
states, with Alaska's  share being $664 million.  In  step 3, the                                                               
funds are distributed to the programs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:07:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS,  in response  to a  committee question,  stated DOT&PF                                                               
would  work with  the  Department  of Environmental  Conservation                                                               
(DEC) on  air quality issues  in the state.   He stated  that air                                                               
quality money is  the most restricted, and  the apportionment may                                                               
not be fully used.  He  continued that DOT&PF would work with DEC                                                               
on the  behavioral side, such  as public education programs.   He                                                               
discussed  the  funding  CMAQ  receives  per  year,  which  is  a                                                               
graduated amount based off the  inflation factor.  He addressed a                                                               
committee  question concerning  the  requirement  to spend  funds                                                               
which have  gone through apportionment.   He explained  that this                                                               
is  one of  the questions  that causes  confusion because  of the                                                               
difference between  apportionment and obligation limit.   He said                                                               
that, generally,  apportionment is  good for  four years,  and it                                                               
does  roll  over,  but  he  would discuss  this  along  with  the                                                               
obligation aspect further in the presentation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS,  in response to  a series of questions  concerning the                                                               
NHFP  in Alaska,  stated  that this  deals  with the  established                                                               
freight  corridors connecting  the major  veins in  between ports                                                               
and airports.  He stated that  the department is in the middle of                                                               
updating  its long-range  transportation plan  and freight  plan.                                                               
Responding to a  follow-up question, he stated  that the industry                                                               
leaders  would  help establish  the  corridor  network, but  they                                                               
would not  determine funding levels.   He responded that  NHFP is                                                               
for all modes  of transportation in the state,  not just asphalt.                                                               
He noted the freight plan,  membership list, and projects updates                                                               
are all  listed on the  department's website.  He  responded that                                                               
NHFP and DOT&PF both would  help establish routes and appropriate                                                               
funding for freight projects.   He added that the freight program                                                               
is also  in NHS, so this  funding is paired with  NHPP, otherwise                                                               
there would not be enough funding for big projects.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:19:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CARPENTER,   in  the  detailed  discussion   concerning  the                                                               
stability  of the  Port of  Alaska in  Anchorage, responded  to a                                                               
series of questions.   He stated that the  funding for rebuilding                                                               
ports  is  restricted and  can  be  used  only for  certain  port                                                               
expenditures.    Per  the  state's recourse  on  this  issue,  he                                                               
responded that  the governor has introduced  a general obligation                                                               
bond  bill  which  contains  money  for the  Port  of  Alaska  in                                                               
Anchorage.    This  is  a  combination  appropriation  with  Port                                                               
MacKenzie.   He  responded that  he does  not know  how ports  in                                                               
other states are funded.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Committee   members  noted   the  seriousness   of  the   issues                                                               
concerning the  Port of Alaska  in Anchorage and  Port MacKenzie,                                                               
and the  opinion was discussed  that the money in  the governor's                                                               
bill would not be enough to make the needed repairs.]                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:27:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS directed attention to  the apportionments made overtime                                                               
in Alaska,  as seen  on slide  12.  He  advised that  the current                                                               
amount of funding is unclear  because Congress has not yet passed                                                               
the budget.   He stated  that including the relief  funds, Alaska                                                               
will receive an estimated $160  million annually.  In response to                                                               
a  committee question,  he said  the funding  will grow  over the                                                               
next  five  years,  but  the  specific number  is  unknown.    He                                                               
responded  that  there  would be  funds  for  workforce  training                                                               
through DOT&PF.   He pointed  out how the apportionment  would be                                                               
broken down among  programs.  He noted that each  of the programs                                                               
did not  grow at the  same rate,  and he discussed  these numbers                                                               
and  differences between  the  programs.   Focusing  on STBG,  he                                                               
stated that these are the most  flexible funds and can be used in                                                               
places which  do not qualify for  federal funding.  He  said that                                                               
some  eligibilities have  been  added, so  the  program has  been                                                               
increased.    He  listed   these  as  wildlife-vehicle  collision                                                               
mitigation   and    remediation,   electric    vehicle   charging                                                               
infrastructure,   rural   barge   landings,   docks,   waterfront                                                               
infrastructure, and  travel and  tourism enhancement.   He stated                                                               
that  STBG  increased  around  13 percent  for  the  year,  while                                                               
inflation was at 7 percent.   Responding to a committee question,                                                               
he stated  that the brand-new  eligibilities are not in  STIP, as                                                               
guidelines  are still  being developed.   He  continued that  the                                                               
funding  would  depend  on  project-delivery  timelines,  as  the                                                               
programing of STBG  funds is four years out,  coinciding with the                                                               
estimated projects delivery dates.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:34:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS pointed out examples  of allocated funds in FAHP, which                                                               
included funds  for ferry boats, discretionary  grants, earmarks,                                                               
and emergency relief.   He stated that, because  Congress has not                                                               
completed the budget, the amount  of additional funds is unknown,                                                               
and a conservative  estimate would be $100 million.   In response                                                               
to a committee  question, he stated that  the discretionary grant                                                               
application process  is competitive and determined  by DoT, while                                                               
emergency  funds  come  directly  to the  state  as  an  earmark;                                                               
however,  the  highway  infrastructure programs  have  nationwide                                                               
formulas.  He stated that each  one of these programs has its own                                                               
method  for  distributing  funds.   In  response  to  a  question                                                               
concerning  emergency relief  funds, he  stated that  these funds                                                               
are  for  natural  disasters,  like  earthquakes,  flooding,  and                                                               
landslides.   He  said if  there is  a bridge  strike, the  money                                                               
would  be received  from  a state  appropriation.   He  continued                                                               
that, on  the federal side,  emergency relief is determined  on a                                                               
case-by-case basis, and there is not "just a pot sitting there."                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:38:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARKS   addressed  the  term  "obligation   limit"  used  in                                                               
reference to  federal funding.   In comparing  apportionments and                                                               
allocations, he stated that this  functions like a "catch limit."                                                               
He used  the allegory  of commercial  fishing with  the different                                                               
varieties of fish  in the sea, which are allocated  on a year-by-                                                               
year basis  in portions which  can be  utilized.  He  stated that                                                               
obligation limitation concerns the  shelf life and the percentage                                                               
of  what would  be used.   He  stated that  the obligation  limit                                                               
would be 90 percent of the  apportionment funding.  He noted that                                                               
apportionments would  last four  years, while  obligation limits,                                                               
which come in  one-year portions, must be spent  by September 30.                                                               
In response to a committee question, he clarified that the four-                                                                
year  limit   applies  to  apportionment.     He  continued  that                                                               
obligation  funding  is currently  an  unknown,  but it  will  be                                                               
around 90  percent of  $664 million in  apportionments.   This is                                                               
specific  to statutory  apportionments  and does  not affect  the                                                               
allocations.   He explained that  the state can spend  90 percent                                                               
of the $664 million.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:42:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARKS  addressed some  of the major  activities that  will be                                                               
seen over  the next year.   He stated that the  new programs will                                                               
be  emphasized,  especially  with the  discretionary  grants  and                                                               
other new  eligibilities.   Outreach efforts  will be  ramped up,                                                               
and a  second, more interactive  survey will be conducted  on the                                                               
state's priorities and  needs.  He referred to  the funding holes                                                               
in the 10-year plan, which need to  be filled, so there will be a                                                               
call for projects,  and a new STIP will be  starting with the new                                                               
electronic  STIP or  "eSTIP," which  will address  efficiency and                                                               
effectiveness.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:46:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS requested multiple follow-up documents.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:48:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Transportation Standing  Committee meeting was adjourned  at 2:48                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DOTPF STIP Presentation HTRA 1-25-22.pdf Htra 1/25/2022 1:00:00 PM